Upstream information

CVE-2024-27415 at MITRE

Description

In the Linux kernel, the following vulnerability has been resolved:

netfilter: bridge: confirm multicast packets before passing them up the stack

conntrack nf_confirm logic cannot handle cloned skbs referencing
the same nf_conn entry, which will happen for multicast (broadcast)
frames on bridges.

Example:
macvlan0
|
br0
/ \
ethX ethY

ethX (or Y) receives a L2 multicast or broadcast packet containing
an IP packet, flow is not yet in conntrack table.

1. skb passes through bridge and fake-ip (br_netfilter)Prerouting.
-> skb->_nfct now references a unconfirmed entry
2. skb is broad/mcast packet. bridge now passes clones out on each bridge
interface.
3. skb gets passed up the stack.
4. In macvlan case, macvlan driver retains clone(s) of the mcast skb
and schedules a work queue to send them out on the lower devices.

The clone skb->_nfct is not a copy, it is the same entry as the
original skb. The macvlan rx handler then returns RX_HANDLER_PASS.
5. Normal conntrack hooks (in NF_INET_LOCAL_IN) confirm the orig skb.

The Macvlan broadcast worker and normal confirm path will race.

This race will not happen if step 2 already confirmed a clone. In that
case later steps perform skb_clone() with skb->_nfct already confirmed (in
hash table). This works fine.

But such confirmation won't happen when eb/ip/nftables rules dropped the
packets before they reached the nf_confirm step in postrouting.

Pablo points out that nf_conntrack_bridge doesn't allow use of stateful
nat, so we can safely discard the nf_conn entry and let inet call
conntrack again.

This doesn't work for bridge netfilter: skb could have a nat
transformation. Also bridge nf prevents re-invocation of inet prerouting
via 'sabotage_in' hook.

Work around this problem by explicit confirmation of the entry at LOCAL_IN
time, before upper layer has a chance to clone the unconfirmed entry.

The downside is that this disables NAT and conntrack helpers.

Alternative fix would be to add locking to all code parts that deal with
unconfirmed packets, but even if that could be done in a sane way this
opens up other problems, for example:

-m physdev --physdev-out eth0 -j SNAT --snat-to 1.2.3.4
-m physdev --physdev-out eth1 -j SNAT --snat-to 1.2.3.5

For multicast case, only one of such conflicting mappings will be
created, conntrack only handles 1:1 NAT mappings.

Users should set create a setup that explicitly marks such traffic
NOTRACK (conntrack bypass) to avoid this, but we cannot auto-bypass
them, ruleset might have accept rules for untracked traffic already,
so user-visible behaviour would change.

SUSE information

Overall state of this security issue: Pending

This issue is currently rated as having moderate severity.

CVSS v3 Scores
  SUSE
Base Score 6.5
Vector CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:H/PR:N/UI:N/S:U/C:N/I:H/A:L
Attack Vector Network
Attack Complexity High
Privileges Required None
User Interaction None
Scope Unchanged
Confidentiality Impact None
Integrity Impact High
Availability Impact Low
CVSSv3 Version 3.1
SUSE Bugzilla entry: 1224757 [IN_PROGRESS]

No SUSE Security Announcements cross referenced.

List of released packages

Product(s) Fixed package version(s) References
SUSE Liberty Linux 9
  • bpftool >= 7.3.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-abi-stablelists >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-core >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-cross-headers >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-debug >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-debug-core >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-debug-devel >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-debug-devel-matched >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-debug-modules >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-debug-modules-core >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-debug-modules-extra >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-debug-uki-virt >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-devel >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-devel-matched >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-doc >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-headers >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-modules >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-modules-core >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-modules-extra >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-tools >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-tools-libs >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-tools-libs-devel >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • kernel-uki-virt >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • libperf >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • perf >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • python3-perf >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • rtla >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
  • rv >= 5.14.0-427.33.1.el9_4
 Patchnames:
RHSA-2024:5928

Status of this issue by product and package

Please note that this evaluation state might be work in progress, incomplete or outdated. Also information for service packs in the LTSS phase is only included for issues meeting the LTSS criteria. If in doubt, feel free to contact us for clarification. The updates are grouped by state of their lifecycle. SUSE product lifecycles are documented on the lifecycle page.

Product(s) Source package State
Products under general support and receiving all security fixes.
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 15 SP5 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 15 SP5 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 15 SP6 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 15 SP6 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 12 kernel-default Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 12 kernel-source Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP5 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP5 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP5 kernel-source-azure Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP6 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP6 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP6 kernel-source-azure Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Live Patching 15 SP5 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Live Patching 15 SP5 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Live Patching 15 SP6 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Live Patching 15 SP6 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.1 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.1 kernel-rt Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.1 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.1 kernel-source-rt Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.2 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.2 kernel-rt Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.2 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.2 kernel-source-rt Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.3 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.3 kernel-rt Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.3 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.3 kernel-source-rt Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.4 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.4 kernel-rt Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.4 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.4 kernel-source-rt Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.5 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.5 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.5 kernel-source-rt Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 6.0 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 6.0 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 6.0 kernel-source-rt Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Basesystem 15 SP5 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Basesystem 15 SP5 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Basesystem 15 SP6 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Basesystem 15 SP6 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Development Tools 15 SP5 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Development Tools 15 SP5 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Development Tools 15 SP6 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Development Tools 15 SP6 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Public Cloud 15 SP5 kernel-source-azure Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Public Cloud 15 SP6 kernel-source-azure Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Real Time 15 SP5 kernel-source-rt Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Real Time 15 SP6 kernel-source-rt Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP5 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP5 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP5 kernel-source-azure Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP6 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP6 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP6 kernel-source-azure Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP5 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP5 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP5 kernel-source-azure Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP6 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP6 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP6 kernel-source-azure Affected
SUSE Manager Proxy 4.3 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Manager Proxy 4.3 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Manager Retail Branch Server 4.3 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Manager Retail Branch Server 4.3 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Manager Server 4.3 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Manager Server 4.3 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Real Time Module 15 SP5 kernel-source-rt Affected
SUSE Real Time Module 15 SP6 kernel-source-rt Affected
openSUSE Leap 15.5 kernel-default Affected
openSUSE Leap 15.5 kernel-source Affected
openSUSE Leap 15.5 kernel-source-azure Unsupported
openSUSE Leap 15.5 kernel-source-rt Unsupported
openSUSE Leap 15.6 kernel-default Not affected
openSUSE Leap 15.6 kernel-source Not affected
openSUSE Leap 15.6 kernel-source-azure Unsupported
openSUSE Leap 15.6 kernel-source-rt Unsupported
Products under Long Term Service Pack support and receiving important and critical security fixes.
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 15 SP4 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Availability Extension 12 SP5 kernel-default Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Availability Extension 12 SP5 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 12 SP5 kernel-default Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 12 SP5 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 12 SP5 kernel-source-azure Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP2 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP2-ESPOS kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP2-LTSS kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP2-LTSS kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP3 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP3-ESPOS kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP3-LTSS kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP3-LTSS kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP4 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP4-ESPOS kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP4-ESPOS kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP4-LTSS kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP4-LTSS kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Live Patching 12 SP5 kernel-default Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Live Patching 12 SP5 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Live Patching 15 SP2 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Live Patching 15 SP2 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Live Patching 15 SP3 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Live Patching 15 SP3 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Live Patching 15 SP4 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Live Patching 15 SP4 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Basesystem 15 SP2 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Basesystem 15 SP3 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Basesystem 15 SP4 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Development Tools 15 SP2 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Development Tools 15 SP3 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Development Tools 15 SP4 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP4 LTSS EXTREME CORE kernel-default Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP4 LTSS EXTREME CORE kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP5 kernel-default Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP5 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP5 kernel-source-azure Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP5-LTSS kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP5-LTSS kernel-source-azure Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP2 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP2-LTSS kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP2-LTSS kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP3 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP3-LTSS kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP3-LTSS kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP4 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP4-LTSS kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP4-LTSS kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 12 SP5 kernel-default Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 12 SP5 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 12 SP5 kernel-source-azure Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP2 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP2 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP3 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP3 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP4 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP4 kernel-source Affected
Products past their end of life and not receiving proactive updates anymore.
HPE Helion OpenStack 8 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE CaaS Platform 4.0 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE CaaS Platform Toolchain 3 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Enterprise Storage 6 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Enterprise Storage 7 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Enterprise Storage 7.1 kernel-default Affected
SUSE Enterprise Storage 7.1 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 SP4 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 12 SP1 kernel-source Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 12 SP3 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 12 SP4 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 15 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 15 SP1 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 15 SP2 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 15 SP3 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP1 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP1-ESPOS kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15 SP1-LTSS kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15-ESPOS kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise High Performance Computing 15-LTSS kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.0 kernel-default Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.0 kernel-rt Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Basesystem 15 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Basesystem 15 SP1 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Development Tools 15 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Development Tools 15 SP1 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Public Cloud 12 kernel-default Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Module for Public Cloud 12 kernel-source Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Real Time 12 SP5 kernel-source-rt Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Real Time 15 SP1 kernel-source-rt Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Real Time 15 SP2 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Real Time 15 SP3 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Real Time 15 SP3 kernel-source-rt Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Real Time 15 SP4 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Real Time 15 SP4 kernel-source-rt Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP4 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP4 LTSS kernel-default Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP4 LTSS kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP4-LTSS kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 kernel-default Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 kernel-source Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP1 kernel-source Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP1-LTSS kernel-source Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP3 kernel-default Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP3 kernel-source Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP3-BCL kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP3-ESPOS kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP3-LTSS kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP4 kernel-default Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP4 kernel-source Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP4-ESPOS kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP4-LTSS kernel-default Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP4-LTSS kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP1 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP1-BCL kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP1-LTSS kernel-default Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP1-LTSS kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP2-BCL kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP3-BCL kernel-source Affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15-LTSS kernel-default Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15-LTSS kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 12 kernel-default Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 12 kernel-source Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 12 SP1 kernel-source Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 12 SP3 kernel-default Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 12 SP3 kernel-source Unsupported
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 12 SP4 kernel-default Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 12 SP4 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for SAP Applications 15 SP1 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Software Development Kit 12 SP5 kernel-default Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Software Development Kit 12 SP5 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Workstation Extension 12 SP5 kernel-default Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Workstation Extension 12 SP5 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Manager Proxy 4.0 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Manager Proxy 4.1 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Manager Proxy 4.2 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Manager Retail Branch Server 4.0 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Manager Retail Branch Server 4.1 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Manager Retail Branch Server 4.2 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Manager Server 4.0 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Manager Server 4.1 kernel-source Affected
SUSE Manager Server 4.2 kernel-source Affected
SUSE OpenStack Cloud 8 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE OpenStack Cloud 9 kernel-default Not affected
SUSE OpenStack Cloud 9 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE OpenStack Cloud Crowbar 8 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE OpenStack Cloud Crowbar 9 kernel-default Not affected
SUSE OpenStack Cloud Crowbar 9 kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Real Time Module 15 SP1 kernel-source-rt Unsupported
SUSE Real Time Module 15 SP3 kernel-source-rt Affected
SUSE Real Time Module 15 SP4 kernel-source-rt Affected
openSUSE Leap 15.3 kernel-source Affected
openSUSE Leap 15.3 kernel-source-rt Affected
openSUSE Leap 15.4 kernel-source Affected
openSUSE Leap 15.4 kernel-source-azure Unsupported
openSUSE Leap 15.4 kernel-source-rt Affected
Products at an unknown state of their lifecycle.
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP5 LTSS Extended Security kernel-source Not affected
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12 SP5 LTSS Extended Security kernel-source-azure Not affected

SUSE Timeline for this CVE

CVE page created: Fri May 17 14:01:06 2024
CVE page last modified: Tue Nov 12 15:11:55 2024